Butterfly: Let's Talk

Men's body image is having a moment in the cultural conversation, but beyond the clickbait, what's actually going on? Where's the line between caring about your body and falling into something that can take over your life?
In this episode, Beth sits down with two guests who've seen it firsthand. Mark Beretta OAM, sports broadcaster, Australian waterski champion, and 2019 Father of the Year, speaks from decades in elite sport and media, and as a father raising a son. Shane Jeffrey, also a father, is an accredited sports dietitian with over 25 years working with clients experiencing eating disorders.
Social media algorithms and influencers are pulling young men into exercise and nutrition behaviours that look reasonable on the surface, but are often unscientific, unregulated, and quietly damaging to both their mental and physical health. Mark and Shane unpack how that happens, why supplements are filling a gap that good nutrition should, and how healthy habits can snowball into something extreme and consuming before anyone notices.
Shane describes what he's seeing clinically in boys aged 14–18. Mark talks about watching some mates head down that road and his own personal experiences growing up in sport culture.
They also cover what families, friends, and sporting clubs can do, and why getting in early with honest conversations can make all the difference.
Whether you're concerned about yourself, a mate, or a young person in your life, this one's worth your time.


Resources

Learn More about Mark Beretta
Learn more about Shane Jeffrey
See our Spot Your Mate Campaign about male body image
See our resources for males and men
Contact our Helpline

Follow Butterfly Foundation on Instagram here
Production Team:
Produced by Beth Shelton and Sam Blacker from The Podcast Butler
Executive Producer: Camilla Becket
Supported by the Waratah Education Foundation
For more information about this episode, visit www.butterfly.org.au/podcast and click through to this episode.

If you're concerned about an eating disorder for yourself or someone you care about, please reach out to the Butterfly National Helpline or chat online with one of their specialist counsellors. Recovery is possible with the right support.


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Neurodivergence, ADHD, autism, dyslexia, sensory processing differences, is far more common in eating disorder presentations than most people realise. When it goes unrecognised, traditional treatment often fails. Families struggle under the weight of behaviours they don't understand. And the individual at the centre suffers not just from the disorder, but from not being seen, or not responding to treatment in the ways everyone hoped.
In this episode, Beth speaks with Camilla Becket, a mum and carer, about what it took to finally understand her daughter's neurodivergence in relation to her eating disorder. Once that became clearer, everything changed. For everyone involved.
If you're a carer, you'll find your fears and frustrations reflected here, and maybe a new compassion for both your loved one and yourself. If you're experiencing an eating disorder, you may too. And if you're a healthcare professional, this one might shift how you think about diagnosis, care, and how person-centred care can successfully play out in real life.
Resources:
Butterfly National Helpline: 1800 33 4673 (1800 ED HOPE)
Chat online
Butterfly's Carer Support Group:https://butterfly.org.au/get-support/support-groups-programs/support-groups/carersupportgroups/
Butterfly's Carer Support Program:https://butterfly.org.au/get-support/support-programs/carer-program-collaborative-care-skills/
Eating Disorders Families Australia.https://edfa.org.au/
Learn more about Beth Shelton
Eating at the Intersections: Understanding the Unique Experiences and Needs of Neurodivergent People
Navigating Eating Disorder Recovery As a Neurodivergent Individual
Eating Disorders Neurodiversity Australia
Production Team:
Produced by Beth Shelton and Sam Blacker from The Podcast Butler
Executive Producer: Camilla Becket
Supported by the Waratah Education Foundation
For more information about this episode, visit www.butterfly.org.au/podcast and click through to this episode.
If you're concerned about an eating disorder for yourself or someone you care about, please reach out to the Butterfly National Helpline or chat online with one of their specialist counsellors. Recovery is possible with the right support.
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Meet our new host, Beth Shelton, a counselling psychologist with thirty years of experience working with people affected by eating disorders, including their loved ones. In addition to her own practice, Beth has shaped services, trained clinicians, and held national leadership roles across the sector. She brings professional wisdom and genuine warmth to all that she does.
In her inaugural episode, Beth is joined by Dr Natasha Hepworth, a psychologist who challenges the idea that an improved body image is simply a matter of changing our thinking.
Most of us already know we should feel better about how we look. But knowing it and living it are worlds apart.
Natasha's work starts with a different question: not what's wrong with how you see your body, but what is your body image protecting you from?
She sees negative body image not as a flaw to be fixed, but as a coping strategy, one that often has roots in real lived experience, including unprocessed trauma and shame. Her work invites us to explore what our bodies have been holding, and how we can heal in a way that genuinely lasts.
If you've ever felt like body acceptance was always just out of reach, this episode may just make the difference.
Resources:
Butterfly National Helpline: 1800 33 4673 (1800 ED HOPE)
Chat online
Learn more about Beth Shelton
Learn more about Natasha Hepworth
Read Body Image Inside out by Deb Schachter and Whitney Otto
Read Befriending the Body by Ann Saffi Biasetti
Follow Butterfly Foundation on Instagram here
Production Team:
Produced by Beth Shelton and Sam Blacker from The Podcast Butler
Executive Producer: Camilla Becket
Supported by the Waratah Education Foundation
For more information about this episode, visit www.butterfly.org.au/podcast and click through to this episode.
If you're concerned about an eating disorder for yourself or someone you care about, please reach out to the Butterfly National Helpline or chat online with one of their specialist counsellors. Recovery is possible with the right support.

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In this episode Yvie is joined by Natalie Spicer, Butterfly's Head of Clinical Services, to talk through taking the all-important first steps toward recovery from an eating disorder.
If you or a loved one are struggling with eating, exercise, or body image and don't know where to begin — this one's for you.
What we cover:
Preparing for a GP appointment and what to expect in that first meeting
Accessing Medicare-subsidised eating disorder treatment plans
Bulk-billed and low-cost care options
Alternative treatment pathways and telehealth options
How carers, loved ones and other allies can offer safe, meaningful support
When a helpline, support group or other support services can make a real difference
Where you may find more resources, including in your own state.
No matter where you're at, this episode is about giving you a plan that fits your life — practical, compassionate, and actionable. You can do it your way with some guidance and tools.
This is the final episode hosted by Yvie Jones and Butterfly will forever be grateful for the work she has done in this space. We'll be introducing our new host in April! :-)
Resources:
Butterfly National Helpline
Butterfly Referral Database
Are you at risk screening tool
Eating Disorders Examination Questionnaire - EDE-Q
Inside Out Institute for Eating Disorders
National Eating Disorders Collaboration
Eating Disorders Victoria
Eating Disorders Queensland
Eating Disorders Families Australia
Follow Yvie Jones on Instagram here
Follow Butterfly Foundation on Instagram here
Production Team:
Produced by Yvie Jones and Sam Blacker from The Podcast Butler
Executive Producer: Camilla Becket
Supported by the Waratah Education Foundation
For more information about this episode, visit www.butterfly.org.au/podcast and click through to this episode.
If you're concerned about an eating disorder for yourself or someone you care about, please reach out to the Butterfly National Helpline or chat online with one of their specialist counsellors. Recovery is possible with the right support.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this week’s episode of Let's Talk In this episode, we're talking about GLP-1 medications, the drugs originally developed for diabetes that are now used more widely for weight loss.
We've all seen how these medications have been changing bodies, but they're also raising some questions: What about medical ethics, implications of new identities, and the impacts on body image and eating disorders? Also, who's really benefitting from this medical breakthrough?
There's no question the significance of GLP-1s, both personally and culturally, is complex and nuanced. For this reason, we've invited two experts with professional insight and personal experience to share their insights. Chevese Turner is a long-time advocate for body liberation who uses a GLP-1 medication for diabetes while also navigating their recovery from an eating disorder. Kathryn MacKay is the Program Director and Senior Lecturer in Bioethics at the University of Sydney, whose work focuses on body image, health, gender, and the cultural forces that shape how we understand "wellness" and worth.
We're talking about how these drugs intersect with diet culture, capitalism, medical gatekeeping, and social belonging, and why the hype around rapid weight loss can come with some costs.
More importantly, Chevese and Kathryn, without judgement, share their views on safeguards and when honest conversations are needed, especially as these medications become more accessible and more visible in everyday life.

Resources:
Butterfly National Helpline: 1800 33 4673 (1800 ED HOPE)
Chat online
Learn more about Chevese Turnerhere.
Learn more about Kathryn MacKayhere.
Search ourReferral Database for professional support.
Follow Yvie Jones on Instagram here
Follow Butterfly Foundation on Instagram here
Production Team:
Produced by Yvie Jones and Sam Blacker from The Podcast Butler
Executive Producer: Camilla Becket
Supported by the Waratah Education Foundation
For more information about this episode, visit www.butterfly.org.au/podcast and click through to this episode.
If you're concerned about an eating disorder for yourself or someone you care about, please reach out to the Butterfly National Helpline or chat online with one of their specialist counsellors. Recovery is possible with the right support.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.