The Leader’s Cut with Preston Morrison

What's your part when God starts moving?

Most of us think the answer is a plan. Lonnell Williams has the plan: he's the Executive Pastor of 2819 Church, the strategist in the room and sharpened in corporate America. And he'll tell you the plan isn't what's doing it.

In this conversation, Preston sits down with Lonnell to talk about what it looks like to steward something only God can build, what it costs the people closest to it, and why consecration doesn't earn what God is doing; it just keeps you from getting in the way.

In this episode:

Spirit Over Strategy — the assimilation plan, the graphics, and the man who got saved in the parking lot before he ever walked in

Clean Hands & A Pure Heart — why Psalm 24 is the foundation of everything 2819 does

Thinner Oxygen — the higher the Lord takes you up the mountain, the harder it gets to breathe

Chipped Bricks & Bent Nails — what it's like to be misunderstood by the people you love most

Anything, Everything, or Nothing at All — the philosophy Lonnell picked up at 22

The Cloud Moves — why the more comfortable you get with God's curveballs, the more you'll see Him move

If My People Will Pray — the story behind filling AT&T Stadium with nothing but prayer

Jesus is building. We're stewarding. And the only way to stay in step with Him, pray.

Isolation isn't an assignment God gives. It's a choice we make, and it's costing you more than you think. You were never meant to carry the call of God by yourself. So why are you still trying?

If you're carrying something heavy right now — a calling, a family, a business, a season you can't see the end of — and you've convinced yourself it's just supposed to be you and the Lord, this episode is for you

Preston walks through what going it alone really reveals about us, what it quietly costs, and how to start leaning on the people God has already put around you. He speaks from experience, including the 40 days he shut everyone out and the two years it took to recover.

In this episode…

How to tell if you're isolating. 

What carrying it alone will cost you and the people around you.

Who God has placed in your life for the storm you're in right now.

What letting others in will cost you, and why it's worth the price.

How the right people will grow you, strengthen you, and make you wiser.

The one thing Preston has learned God always responds to when you need SERIOUS help.

If you've been white-knuckling the call by yourself, this one's for you.

You weren't designed to carry this alone. So stop trying.

What would you give up to keep God close?

Preston has walked with Cody Carnes and Kari Jobe Carnes for more than 25 years, going back to the early youth ministry days. In this conversation, the three of them sit down to talk about Psalm 24, what it means to have clean hands and a pure heart, and what it has costs to protect that.

Cody and Kari describe purity of heart as something closer to a garden, tended every day, one small weed at a time, because once you've felt God in the room, you never want to feel Him leave it. They're also honest that it costs you. The higher He takes you, the more it's going to cost.

In this episode:

Pure In Heart: the plaque on Kari's childhood wall, and the CD her dad felt from the kitchen

God's Going To Ask You For Something: the decision Cody made the summer before his senior year

When God Leaves The Room: what Cody calls one of the scariest things he's ever felt

You're Not The Gardener: who actually tends the garden of your heart

Walking The Other Direction: how Kari got comfortable with the price of saying no to the crowd

The 10-to-1 Ratio: Cody's caution to Gen Z about where they get their revelation

The Staring Day: what God is doing when He says nothing at all

Purity of heart is not a rulebook, and it isn't something you settle once. It's a daily yes to keeping Him close, even when that means being hidden, misunderstood, or walking the other way while everyone else heads toward the lights. Cody and Kari have been paying that price for decades, and they'd tell you the same thing Preston does: blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

So keep climbing the hill.

You've got more to celebrate than you think. So why does it feel like nothing counts?

In this episode, Preston sits down with Tim Ross to talk about something they've both struggled with for years: celebrating. Not the birthday-party kind. The kind Scripture calls rejoicing — choosing joy again over what God has already done, no matter what He does next.

Tim looks back on the moments in his life he should have celebrated and didn't, and how he's learned to be intentional about it now. Preston gets called out in real time about the celebration he's been holding back with his own son — and names the lie underneath it: "you're not enough."

In this episode…

Present before you can rejoice — why a body that's gone offline can't celebrate

Rejoice = "re-joy" — choosing joy again over what He already did

Excessive celebration — why the enemy hates to see you spike the ball

Psalm 23:5 — the table He prepared, and what He wants to talk about

Memorial stones — 85 saved voicemails and a Toy Story ringtone

The fence line before the cliff of craving — contentment as the prerequisite

If you've convinced yourself you'll celebrate when the next thing pops off — this one's for you. He's already done enough. Throw the party.

Is it strict… or is it romantic?

Most people hear the word "consecration" and think legalism—a list of rules for pastors and the overly serious. Maybe it’s something else entirely: an invitation. Because the God who is searching the whole earth for a fully devoted heart isn't sitting back on His throne deciding whether to move. He's on the edge of His seat, saying, give me one.

In this conversation, Preston sits down with Luke LeFevre, a pastor & revivalist, to talk about the price of the set-apart life, why the Western church stopped teaching it, and what God does when someone finally pays it.

In this episode:

You Can't Be Hungry For What You've Never Tasted — why some people aren't hungry for God (and why that's not their fault)

Strict Or Romantic? — the reframe that changes everything

Move The Fence In — why we should never play close to the line, and where the gray area actually leads

You Don't Have To Feel Convicted To Be Convicted — how to know the voice you're hearing is God and not you

He'll Just Use You Less — the line that puts the cost of consecration in one sentence

Consecration was never about earning something from God. It's about making room for Him—and refusing to compromise the intimacy that comes when He draws close. It's costly, it isn't getting cheaper, and Luke and Preston both say the same thing about it: no matter what it costs, it is always worth it.