The New Music Business with Ari Herstand

This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Bay Area rapper, LaRussell. Known for his backyard shows, revolutionary ticketing and release practices, and motivational freestyling, LaRussell has become a blueprint for modern DIY artistry. His business, Good Compenny, is a multi-media brand that puts on shows, sells merch, and empowers independent artists.

In this episode, Ari and LaRussell discuss when and why it’s important to stay independent as an artist. LaRussell tells Ari how he continues to find joy in making music, even after releasing over 700 songs. He also breaks down his offer-based ticketing model—a game-changing approach that could change the entire live concert industry. Tune in to hear LaRussell’s secrets to community-building, his artistic approach to social media, and loads of inspiration heading into 2026.

https://www.instagram.com/larussell

06:20 – LaRussell explains “out the trunk” direct bookings
08:10 – Origin of the backyard concerts
12:21 – Full backyard experience (hospitality, free food, bounce house)
16:45 – How offer-based ticketing works (“What is this worth to you?”)
18:23 – His $1,000 birthday show that made $250K
20:12 – Full breakdown of all revenue streams
27:02 – Why he stays independent + label philosophy
43:48 – What “Good Compenny” really is (a community)
54:38 – Spending $120K on ads to make $800K back
01:02:01 – Full-circle moment: how the book changed his life

Edited and mixed by Peter Schrupp
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take

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This week on the New Music Business Podcast, Ari sits down with recent GRAMMY Award winners Matt B and Angela Benson. Matt B is a GRAMMY-winning R&B singer, songwriter, and global recording artist whose career spans over a decade. His most recent project, ‘Alkebulan II’, earned him and Angela a GRAMMY Award, following years of DIY artistry. Over the course of this album, Matt and Angela recorded across Africa, collaborated with artists like Eddie Kenzo and Oxlade, and worked with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra at Abbey Road Studios. As a label owner, producer on ‘Alkebulan II’, and longtime Recording Academy member, Angela has been instrumental in shaping Matt’s artistic direction, visual world-building, and global strategy.

In this episode, Matt B and Angela Benson walk through their incredible DIY journey and how they found themselves on the GRAMMY-winning path. They discuss the challenges of writing and recording in multiple African languages, shooting a full visual album across multiple countries, and balancing the creative workload between artist and manager. The pair break down how independent artists can navigate the GRAMMY process, the importance of joining the Recording Academy, the role of networking and bartering in major creative endeavors, and most importantly, the communication and patience required to run a music career as a married team.

https://www.instagram.com/mattbworld
https://www.instagram.com/angelavbenson

01:40 – Home Studio & Recent Travels
02:10 – Returning to His Alma Mater After the Grammy Win
03:00 – Life & Opportunities After Winning a Grammy
04:15 – Performing in Uganda & Global Breakthrough Moments
05:20 – Inception of the Akebulan Concept
09:00 – Connecting With Oxlade & Eddie Kenzo
11:00 – Creating the “Gimme Love” Music Video
13:00 – Building a Full Visual Album DIY
17:40 – Finding Producers & Collaborators Worldwide
20:00 – Incorporating the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
30:00 – Navigating Grammy Nominations & Recording Academy Membership
47:00 – Working as a Husband-and-Wife Artist/Manager Team

Edited and mixed by Peter Schrupp
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take

Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com
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This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Matt Jones, the CEO and co-founder of Medallion, a platform helping artists own their fan relationships and build new revenue models. Matt was previously CEO of Songkick, another direct-to-fan platform that was acquired by Warner Music Group. He’s now developing new economic models for artists to own their fan relationships.

In this episode, Matt and Ari discuss the direct-to-fan experience and why it’s beneficial to give artists full ownership of their data. Matt explains why traditional models like Patreon and Substack don’t fit the creative rhythms of most musicians. They also dig into the shortcomings of streaming and the need for transparency in artist payments. Tune in to learn more about how major labels might adapt, what lessons can be learned from Bandcamp, and why the next decade of music will be defined by artist ownership and sustainability.

https://medallion.app/

0:00 - Intro
10:45 – Why the term “superfan” has taken over the industry
13:20 – The challenges artists face relying on third-party platforms
15:50 – How Medallion lets artists own their data and build communities
18:30 – Why streaming’s economic model is outdated and unsustainable
21:50 – Why Patreon and Substack rarely work for most musicians
24:15 – The three main artist revenue streams: live, recordings, and merch
28:30 – How Bandcamp paved the way—but why it isn’t enough
31:40 – Handling rights, licensing, and label relationships on Medallion
38:00 – The future of transparency and fan-to-artist payment models
49:50 – Why blockchain and NFTs weren’t the right fit for Medallion

Edited and mixed by Peter Schrupp
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take

Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com
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This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with acclaimed pianist and composer, Chloe Flower. Born in Pennsylvania, Chloe began playing piano at age two, later studying at the Manhattan School of Music’s Precollege and London’s Royal Academy of Music. A classically trained pianist turned genre-bender, she calls her unique style “popsical” (a fusion of classical, pop, and hip-hop). She has collaborated with major artists like Céline Dion, Babyface, Nas, and Cardi B (whose 2019 GRAMMY performance she helped elevate). Beyond performing, Chloe is a passionate advocate for music education.

In this episode, Ari and Chloe dive deep into Chloe’s artistic journey. They discuss everything from her rigorous classical training to the lessons she’s learned from merging two distinct musical worlds. In this episode, you’ll learn about label strategy, collaboration with big-name artists and producers, and maintaining authenticity while scaling. Chloe shares invaluable insights on building a personal brand (both musically and visually), empowering women in the industry, and how she sees the future of genre-fluid music.

https://www.instagram.com/misschloeflower

05:00 – The Holiday Album and Women Composers
10:30 – Understanding Public Domain and Classical Music Rights
15:45 – YouTube Covers, Metadata, and Going Independent
19:00 – Meeting Babyface and Blending Genres
25:00 – The Viral Grammy Performance with Cardi B
29:30 – Evolving Sound and the Role of Collaboration
33:00 – Running an Independent Label and Revenue Streams
36:00 – Pros and Cons of Major vs. Indie Labels
47:00 – Music Education and Inspiring the Next Generation
54:00 – Performing with Orchestras and Conductors

Edited and mixed by Peter Schrupp
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take

Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com
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This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Daniel Rowland, a rare combination of audio engineer, producer, tech executive, and educator. The music he’s worked on has amassed over 15 billion streams, earning Emmy and Oscar wins, Grammy nominations, and multiple platinum certifications. His credits span an eclectic range of artists and projects, including Nina Simone, Nine Inch Nails, Thundercat, Star Wars, Pixar, and John Wick. Beyond the studio, Daniel serves as VP of Strategy and Partnerships at LANDR Audio and a longtime professor at MTSU, where he champions ethical, AI-driven tools that empower creators.

In this episode, Ari and Daniel explore the ever-evolving intersection of music, technology, and creativity. They dive deep into the art and science of mastering for different formats, the rise of AI in music production, and how to maintain authenticity in an increasingly automated world. Daniel also shares his personal journey from musician to educator and innovator, offering invaluable insights for artists navigating the future of sound and creation.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/rowlanddaniel

https://www.landr.com/

00:00 – Mixing vs. Mastering & the Role of AI in Quality Control
02:30 – Introducing Daniel Rowland & His Career Overview
06:45 – Daniel’s Journey from Musician to Engineer & Educator
09:45 – Dolby Atmos & Spatial Audio: Fad or Future?
19:00 – What Mastering Really Is (and Isn’t)
26:00 – The “Curmudgeon” Era of Mastering Engineers
29:00 – Loudness, LUFS, and the Streaming Revolution
36:45 – The Vinyl Comeback: Problems and Pitfalls
47:45 – Automated Mastering & LANDR’s Evolution
54:00 – The Future of AI and Creativity in Music

Edited and mixed by Ari Davids
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take

Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com
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