Jessie Stephens, and the public argument that turned personal.
As co-host of one of the biggest podcasts in the country, Jessie Stephens has grown a large audience as well as a large number of critics. Over the years, Clare has watched people create a distorted version of her twin sister online, misrepresenting her career, her values, her marriage and even the way she has embraced motherhood. Much of that criticism has centred on the rumour that Jessie is successful because of nepotism, a narrative she has never addressed candidly until now.In this episode, Jessie opens up about how that narrative began, why it stuck and how it feels to have your achievements and identity rewritten by strangers. She also reflects on the pile-on that hurt her most: a 2022 debate about marriage that spiralled into personal attacks and years of ongoing criticism. This conversation explores what happens when online narratives collide with real life, and what it means to be reduced to a stereotype when you are trying to live, work and raise a family in full view of the internet.With thanks to Jessie StephensThe Pile-On is created and hosted by Clare Stephens.Produced by Lize Ratliff.For guest suggestions or feedback, message Clare on Instagram @clare.stephenssSubscribe to Clare’s substack NQR (Not Quite Right) here.Find her debut novel The Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done - about a young woman at the centre of a vicious online pile-on here.Please remember you don’t have to go through this alone. Reaching out for help can feel difficult, but support is available 24/7. If you or someone you know is struggling, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Josh Szeps: A wedding, a badly worded tweet & an uncomfortable conversation
Josh Szeps has built a career on asking difficult questions and refusing to repeat the lines people want him to say. Today, he is known for pushing back against groupthink and hosting conversations most people avoid. But long before that was his public identity, Josh experienced his first pile-on the same weekend as his wedding.In this episode, Josh reflects on the online backlash that blindsided him in New York, the much bigger one that followed years later in Australia, and what it cost him to stay honest in a culture obsessed with picking sides.This is a conversation about marriage, media, tribalism and the personal toll of refusing to belong to any one camp.With thanks to Josh SzepsThe Pile-On is created and hosted by Clare Stephens.Produced by Lize Ratliff.For guest suggestions or feedback, message Clare on Instagram @clare.stephenssSubscribe to Clare’s substack NQR (Not Quite Right) here.Find her debut novel The Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done - about a young woman at the centre of a vicious online pile-on here.Please remember you don’t have to go through this alone. Reaching out for help can feel difficult, but support is available 24/7. If you or someone you know is struggling, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Domenica Calarco on the podcast episode that changed her life
In early 2024, Married at First Sight alumni Domenica Calarco and her co-host were at the height of their podcasting success. Their show Sit With Us had built a loyal audience and strong partnerships, but one episode changed everything.After a controversial interview aired, Domenica found herself at the centre of a full-blown internet storm. Headlines, comment sections and brand partners turned against her, and within days, her life and career began to unravel.In this episode, Domenica opens up about what really happened, the toll of public scrutiny, and the moment she checked into a mental health facility to begin rebuilding her life.This is a conversation about resilience, recovery and what it means to survive a pile-on you never saw coming.With thanks to Domenica CalarcoThe Pile-On is created and hosted by Clare Stephens.Produced by Lize Ratliff.For guest suggestions or feedback, message Clare on Instagram @clare.stephenssSubscribe to Clare’s substack NQR (Not Quite Right) here.Find her debut novel The Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done - about a young woman at the centre of a vicious online pile-on here.Please remember you don’t have to go through this alone. Reaching out for help can feel difficult, but support is available 24/7. If you or someone you know is struggling, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Kath Ebbs was dumped by JoJo Siwa. Then the internet turned cruel.
In April 2025, Australian actor and content creator Kath Ebbs (they/them) found themselves at the centre of a global tabloid storm — one that had nothing to do with being on television, and everything to do with who they were dating.Their then-partner, pop icon and Celebrity Big Brother UK contestant JoJo Siwa, had spent weeks on camera forming what looked like much more than a friendship with fellow housemate Chris Hughes. Viewers dissected every glance, every late-night scene, and when the finale aired, speculation exploded. There was just one problem in that storyline — and that was Kath. At the after-party, they were blindsided and dumped.In this episode, Kath Ebbs talks about heartbreak, public scrutiny and what it costs to tell your story when the internet has already written it for you.With thanks to Kath EbbsListen to Clare's initial podcast interview with Kath here on Conversations with Kath. The Pile-On is created and hosted by Clare Stephens.Produced by Lize Ratliff.For guest suggestions or feedback, message Clare on Instagram @clare.stephenssSubscribe to Clare’s substack NQR (Not Quite Right) here.Find her debut novel The Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done - about a young woman at the centre of a vicious online pile-on here.Please remember you don’t have to go through this alone. Reaching out for help can feel difficult, but support is available 24/7. If you or someone you know is struggling, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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When Tim Minchin got cancelled for something he didn’t actually say.
Tim Minchin knows what it’s like to have the internet turn on you for something you didn’t actually say.At the end of 2023, while touring An Unfunny Evening With Tim Minchin and His Piano, his mother Ros died unexpectedly. He was grieving, performing, and trying to plan a funeral when his phone lit up with a warning from his management: “You’ll get calls from numbers you don’t recognise. Don’t pick up.” A few nights earlier, he’d spoken onstage about empathy, nuance, and the danger of dividing the world into heroes and villains — but online, that message was twisted beyond recognition. Within hours, headlines accused him of taking sides in a global conflict, and strangers branded him a “supporter of genocide.”In this episode, Tim opens up about that week — what it felt like to be misrepresented while mourning, why he walked away from social media entirely, and how his song 15 Minutes of Shame captures the culture of outrage we’ve all helped create. It’s a conversation about grief, technology, and the cost of living in a world that rewards certainty over understanding.With thanks to Tim Minchin. Next week, Kath Ebbs joins us in studio.The Pile-On is created and hosted by Clare Stephens.Produced by Lize Ratliff.For guest suggestions or feedback, message Clare on Instagram @clare.stephenssSubscribe to Clare’s substack NQR (Not Quite Right) here.Find her debut novel The Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done - about a young woman at the centre of a vicious online pile-on here.Please remember you don’t have to go through this alone. Reaching out for help can feel difficult, but support is available 24/7. If you or someone you know is struggling, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Pile-On is a podcast about what happens when the internet turns on you. Each episode, we go beyond the hot takes, beyond the comment sections, into what many describe as one of the most brutal, isolating, suffocating experiences of their lives. You’ve seen the outrage. Now hear what it’s like at the bottom. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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